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Coinbase's Evan Kormos: in regulated AI work, defining 'good' is the hard part

Kormos argued that an AI loop can be trusted only as far as the check that judges its work.

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Coinbase's Evan Kormos: in regulated AI work, defining 'good' is the hard part
In brief
  • Evan Kormos of Coinbase says the hard part of using agents in regulated work is defining a good result, then building a reliable check.
  • He described three stages: full human review, sampled review, then humans handling mostly exceptions. Each move depends on measured confidence in the check.

Evan Kormos says the hard part of putting AI agents into regulated work is defining what a good result looks like and building a check that tests for it. Kormos has spent 15 years in big-company financial services and now works as a hands-on team lead at Coinbase. He spoke on the AI Engineer show.

What was said

Kormos described a process as a chain of steps. Inside each step, an agent works in a loop: it does the work, then a check decides whether the result is good enough to move on. He called defining a good result the hard part. Without a dependable way to judge the output, he said, extra passes do not necessarily improve it. His summary: "The loop is really only as trustworthy as the check."

He contrasted this with traditional software, where unit tests, which are automated checks on code, build confidence. Agents are probabilistic, he said, meaning their answers can vary from one try to the next, and several different answers may be acceptable. Matching one exact output is therefore not enough. He called for test sets that reflect real cases, repeated evaluations run in large numbers, and traces, which are records of what an agent did while running.

Kormos used a lending example: identity checks and financials in parallel, then a credit memo, risk review, documentation and a decision. He suggested the decision stay with humans, since it is the check against policy. For rollout, he described three stages. On day one, humans verify all output, and subject matter experts help set the standard. Once measured confidence passes a limit set by policy, humans review a slice. Later, humans handle mostly exceptions while still helping improve the test data.

Why it matters

Our reading: the person who can say what a good result is becomes a key person in an agent project. In Kormos's rollout, domain experts take part at every stage, including the last. For managers, that suggests budgeting expert time to build and refine test data, not only to review output. For buyers, it suggests questions for any vendor: who defined good, how is it measured, and what level of confidence lets humans step back? Kormos said the aim is that confidence is "not a feeling about a model". It should rest on research and statistics about quality.

The other side

Kormos expected the decision step to be harder to improve gradually, and he kept it with humans. The excerpts do not show how a team sets the policy limit or knows its test data is representative. They give no results or numbers from real deployments. They also do not show whether people who can define good are hard to find. Under sampling, humans never see most outputs, so the approach leans on traces to catch problems. Nothing said addresses who checks the check itself. This is one practitioner's framework, not evidence that it works at scale.

Written by the WebPulse Newsroom with AI assistance, and checked by our editorial review: every quotation was verified against the recording's transcript. How we use AI.

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